the velvet reformation

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this is a pretty thoughtful piece on rowan wiliams and gay clergy (it’s pretty long too – be warned) [ht bob]

the velvet reformation

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  1. Robb

    Sorry I stopped reading when the bounds of reality became blurred.
    “He took a job at a school in Yorkshire affiliated with a quasi-monastic settlement called the Community of the Resurrection”
    School? By that I assume the Anglican training institution The College of the Resurrection where he was a lecturer whilst training for ordination. Quasi-monastic? I suspect that there are a few monks who would be a little perplexed by this.

  2. jonny

    that’s kind of weird to duck out over that – that’s not really the thrust of the article ?!

  3. Mark Fletcher

    Really good article, well worth a read.

  4. Existential Punk

    Jonny,
    Thanks for sharing this article. He sort of reminds me of Obama trying to reconcile two groups. i think that is good, but not to the detriment of the gay community. Sometimes splits, break-ways, schisms happen, and sometimes it it he best thing for all involved.
    Adele

  5. Robb

    No it’s not really the thrust of the article. How can I trust what the article is saying when they can’t get basic things like that right? It comes across as a bit quasi-journalistic.
    I guess that when you have had lunch a few times with your local monks and you’ve sat in Rowan William’s old office at the college, a journalist looking down at them/it is annoying. If CR is good enough for Bonhoeffer…

  6. Caroline Too

    I’m not sure that I agree with the article… I’m not actually sure that the really big issue (in terms of eternity, not of the immediate church politics) is the acceptance of gay and lesbian people
    there are three questions that exercise me,
    * How can I be church, welcoming, upbuilding and pointing to Jesus – to a gay couple?
    * How can I be church, welcoming, upbuilding and pointing to Jesus – to a conservative evangelical, who sees gay practice as wrong?
    * How can I be church – receiving and learning from both the above people?
    In those questions, I think, lie the genius (and I fear the death) of the Anglican church…
    at the moment it doesn’t look promising, but it’s worth the struggle. Maybe if we reframed the gay-or-anti-gay dialogue that seems to pepper the article… then maybe we’d find a way through… with, I fear, pain in all parts… but then the cross was a way of pain…

  7. jonny

    great questions caroline…

  8. Robb

    Caroline Too – that is a brilliant way of setting out the issues!

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